The International - The True Value of a Conflict
August 14th, 2009
A chilling conversation from the film “The International” referring to banking and debt, with no subtle relevence in the real world as we know it.
Duration : 0:2:21
A chilling conversation from the film “The International” referring to banking and debt, with no subtle relevence in the real world as we know it.
Duration : 0:2:21
August 14th, 2009
sick but true. …
sick but true. check out this film to really find out about the banksters and their ways of control, especially over the Republocrats. watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
August 14th, 2009
I understand most …
I understand most of this, the question is how do I submit this type of “payment”? Do I have to have a certain form or just print AFV across the ‘bill’? In the case of the IRS an ignorant employee, which describes about the entire agency, could ruin ones life if they don’t know what this is all about.
I can identify because I’m just learning what it’s all about.
August 14th, 2009
War is always about …
War is always about Profit or Power I say just ing nuke all the es —He who creates first force field will be the True Power…Maybe I will do it…gotta get to that space craft S-4 out in Nevada!
August 14th, 2009
A corporate …
A corporate government presentment is a presumption of a contract. If you don’t know that then you still don’t understand what Debt is.
August 14th, 2009
oh I see… paying …
oh I see… paying with a credit card pre pays your groceries, so the fault is with the credit card company not the guy who accepts the credit card as payment.
August 14th, 2009
unless you pay for …
unless you pay for those groceries with a credit card, then you can a4v the credit card debt.
August 14th, 2009
No. It only …
No. It only pertains to corporate government presentments — Pertains only to those offers that address you in the all caps name.
August 14th, 2009
So the next time …
So the next time you go to the grocery store you can tell the grocery clerk that your groceries are pre-paid.
In theory, yes;
in practice, no.
August 14th, 2009
Kimarie wrote: …
Kimarie wrote: Anyone who endorses a paycheck creates money solely with the remedy provided by Congress, after lawful specie money was taken away from us. * **Public Law: “Chap. 48, 48 Stat. 112″ is that remedy*. And since there is no lawful money to pay debts, isn’t everything already pre-paid?
YES!
August 14th, 2009
The UCC pertains to …
The UCC pertains to contracts. If you have no contract with the entity who sent you something then you would make a “conditional acceptance for value” I.E., prove we have a contract, and I’ll pay you.
August 14th, 2009
The video is …
The video is deceptive because it makes the blanket statement that the “[T]rue value of a conflict is in the debt that it creates.”
Debt is created by loan or contract. A loan is a contract and a contract is invalid without consideration. People that make contracts without valuable consideration are controlled by their own ignorance.
August 14th, 2009
if you accept a …
if you accept a presentment for value, that means you agree with it. The only way you can honestly pay (and not create more debt) is by you allowing the corporate entity to exchange your credits for their debits. Remember, there is no money. Just ledger entries. And there are accounts on all of us that the gov uses as collateral for the debt. All collecting interest (in credits/ledger entries) and waiting for you to claim your share. But dont tell anyone.
August 14th, 2009
Well I don’t think …
Well I don’t think it means what you say. “Accept for value” is a phrase found in the UCC, no? Why would they put that phrase in the UCC if it means “pays the debt and zeros out the balance”? That’s ridiculous.
Accept for value is a phrase confined to UCC contracts. Debt has no value but the contracts made under the UCC are presumed to have value because of the presumption of valuable consideration- i.e., you got something for something. There’s more but no more space here to splain.
August 14th, 2009
take a “certificate …
take a “certificate” of life birth on each and every one of us as collateral for the national debt. They securitized our birth certificates but never told us about it. Non disclosure is what it’s called. Its a debt slave contract you didn’t knowingly enter into. They have to discharge or set-off our debt, because they took away our ability to really pay with gold or silver. No one owns anything in this country. I know this because “they” at their whim, can take away everything u think u own.
August 14th, 2009
It means exactly …
It means exactly what it says. Google search the following: accepted for value or: AFV or: A4V. I know it’s not popular these days, but you have to read and study. “They” are not going to tell you. In fact, they dont want you to know this. All there is, is debt. How can we pay a debt with another debt? You can’t. It just creates more debt. AFV, pays the debt and zeros out the balance because when they caused the bankruptcy, the gov accepted the liability for the debt of the nation and they
August 14th, 2009
What does “accept …
What does “accept for value” mean?
August 14th, 2009
God’s word wanrs us …
God’s word wanrs us of this in more than 1 place… Here is one place:
Pro 22:7 The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.
August 14th, 2009
if u dont …
if u dont understand the term “debt money” u dont understand anything……search engine “billions for the bankers” and learn how the Real World works and you u work you butt off and cant get anywhere………the go to pbn.4mgdotcom and get involved
August 14th, 2009
It does work. Read …
It does work. Read the UCC definitions. But one has to learn and understand who they are in the grand scheme of things. Currently and since 1933, there is no money; just debt. Debt notes (IOU’s) backed by the faith and credit of who? Who signs for these debt notes? Who signs a promissory note? Who signs the check or credit voucher? Your signature is what creates the value. Nothing of their fictional system pertains to you unless you volunteer into it. They create nothing. You create everything.
August 14th, 2009
But does AFV …
But does AFV actually work or is it just a concept.
I’ll wait.
August 14th, 2009
If everyone …
If everyone practiced AFV, (google AFV or A4V) as it pertains to all the corporate presentments and offers we receive, this control of debt, Monopoly game would be finished and we would be the victors. It would be over in less than 30 days.
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August 14th, 2009
As Mayer Amschel …
As Mayer Amschel Rothschild stated, “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws..”
August 14th, 2009
Great!
Watch …
Great!
Watch Zeitgeist the movie, the part about debt is as good
Thanks so much for uploading this
August 14th, 2009
you can download it …
you can download it for free from Pirate Bay
August 14th, 2009
May the ghost of …
May the ghost of John Dillinger ride again. the bankers, and Wall Street.